Christmas doesn't have to be a time of Santa, presents and marketing (Don't tell our retail clients that I said that) . It can be a time when hope springs eternal, life pours into the frozen and forgotten, and just after the shortest day of the year it's time to think of warmer brighter days. In this episode I interviewed a biker pastor, (because; why wouldn't I???) and we talked about all things eternal, including the business of brining rebels together in this adventuresome ride called "Life".
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